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Resolved Remove teleport command.

Discussion in 'Feedback & Support' started by SilverMario, Feb 9, 2016.

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  1. SilverMario

    SilverMario Golden

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    There's no reason to have a teleport command, all that can come out of it is abuse, let's just remove it.
     
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    Decap Super Radman

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    Moved to Feedback. It has it's uses in some cases, but just like many other things it can be abused. I think we just need to be more strict with it. Abusing it should come with a hefty punishment.
     
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  3. Mapplesauce

    Mapplesauce twentyseven character title

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    Agreed, I don't particularly see a utility for the teleport function to be honest but being more strict with possible abuse is probably better than just removing it all together.
     
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  4. Decap

    Decap Super Radman

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    The only uses I can see is if your teammate needs to get back to the boat before the water rises but is out of time. That or bringing teammates to your room.
     
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    I think the !bring and !goto command should be disabled until 0:30 in the build phase until the end of the round instead of completely removing the command.
     
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  6. Rick

    Rick female nipple Gold VIP

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    Are we talking about team tp or the admin command or both or what?
     
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  7. SilverMario

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    I am talking about the admin command, because staff just abuse and there is NO use of having it.
     
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    Rick female nipple Gold VIP

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    I used to use it when somebody was like 'xyz is prop-pushing' so I could get to that person super quick but yeah most people just fuck about with it more than they should
     
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  9. jeffreythe00

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    Instead of removing a useful command just because a few individuals abuse/abused it, why don't we try to come up with an alternative solution where individuals can not abuse it? I 100% agree that being able to teleport yourself/players during the "get on boat/fight" phase can only be classified as abuse because there is not really any other reason you'd need to bring/goto people. There may be some instances which an admin might want to go to a player during these phases but I'm just going to say that majority of the "goto" during these phases would be classified as abuse.

    I really like to be able to goto/bring players as there are many instances in which the commands are needed. So I don't want to see these commands removed entirely.
     
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  10. SilverMario

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    I don't see any use in either command, you've got no clip for a reason, and if you want to bring someone for no reason what so ever, you can pick them up with a phys gun.
     
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  11. jeffreythe00

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    I think you missed the point.

    Sure, Jr Mod+ get access to Noclip but regular players do not have access to this. So if they get stuck somewhere in the map or in someone elses props then they are forced to suicide. Some fresh newbs might not even know a suicide command exists so help from an admin in the form of a teleport is always a welcoming factor.

    In the case a player needs assistance, a simple !goto is easy compared to noclipping around to find the player.

    On the note of "picking up players". Unless something has changed recently then Jr Mod+ do not have access to this function. It is/was a Admin+ feature and from my experience players do not like being picked up for "no reason". So if this is a new feature, I don't agree with it.

    All in all, if the point is "Jr Mod+ can abuse" then take that factor away and you're left with a functional and useful tool. Just taking commands away because they can be abused is the lazy way to fix things.
     
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    There should be a command where you can just simply kill yourself. (!kill, !suicide, !respawn, !spawn, yabba, blah, etc.)
     
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  13. SilverMario

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    Sorry, admin+ can and will abuse them. I still don't see the point in just using noclip to get somewhere quick or adding a !kill command.
     
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    Decap Super Radman

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    Correction, it's Mod+ not Admin+
     
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    counter Godly Member Staff Member Server Moderator Platinum VIP

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    Correction, it's Junior Mod+ not Mod+ :D
     
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    i agree all that comes out of that is abuse most servers ive played which have it are going downhill
     
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    That doesn't make it the right to completely remove it. Just disable the !goto and !bring command on the last minute or 30 seconds of the build phase like Bayrock or Donkie did, disabling noclip on the first 30 seconds on the build phase to prevent VIPs to snatch the room first.
     
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  18. jeffreythe00

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    All Jr Mod+ commands can be abused, that is why they are restricted to Jr Mod+. Just because something "can" be abused doesn't mean we should remove it. Bans have been given out very recently for small infractions and without warning. This is abuse. Should we consider removing this command too? No, because its useful.

    TL:DR, echo my previous posts. If something is being abused by Staff, then actions should be taken to remedy the issue. Simply removing commands is lazy.
     
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  19. Mapplesauce

    Mapplesauce twentyseven character title

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    was about to post this and the same exact fucking hypothical, screw you jeff

    but yeah exactly this, setting restrictions is less lazy and straight out deleting it is wasting possible potential just simply because it can be abused
     
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  20. SilverMario

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    But what's the point of having the commands? I still don't see why we don't just use no clip and add a !kill command, this command is never used unless it's being abused.
     
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