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Accepted Rogers' Unban Request

Discussion in 'Unban Requests' started by Roflcopter Rogers, Dec 31, 2015.

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  1. Roflcopter Rogers

    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    1. Brief description of what happened before you were banned: I vote banned players that who kept breaking rules...
    2. Admin who banned you: CounterCraftz
    3. Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:109545076
    4. Evidence: Not really sure why I was banned, all the reasons were valid. I see no reason to ban me.
     
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  2. Lucas Hood

    Lucas Hood former Sylar

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    Wtf is this. Banned for vote banning rulebreakers? Are you serious CounterCraftz? Do you even have evidence that he was abusing and were you even there? Whats your problem this isn't a valid reason to ban someone especially if you were not even there.
     
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  3. Bayrock

    Bayrock Founder & Developer Staff Member Founder

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    A player has reported you that you were randomly votebanning him while he didn't even contributed to the community. I've checked through server logs and have confirmed that it was indeed random.

    I only decided to ban you for the votebanning on the player without VIP but I might have extended it due to your behavior that everyone has been reporting me about. I've also extended your ban for record if you haven't noticed.

    Even though this might be a mistake but please take into consideration that the person that doesn't have VIP and you decided to voteban him for 'invisible boat' was invalid to my point of view.

    I think I took the player's words for it as much as I would expect.

    I sincerely apologize but you need to step up on the game here. Reduced your ban to 3 hours due to one ban mistake.

    Could @Bayrock confirm STEAM_0:1:64809879's status?

    EDIT: including STEAM_0:1:42639178
     
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  5. Lucas Hood

    Lucas Hood former Sylar

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    Are you serious? Your not even sure if your ban is even valid? Do you even have evidence to support the claims of others? They are just "witnesses" or "victims" they cannot be trusted with giving information to you. You need EVIDENCE not peoples views.

    Edit: This ban should be lifted if you have no evidence supporting the claims of others. This is a very unfair ban and should NEVER happen again.
     
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    I do understand but banning a player without any sort of contribution seems enough for me.
     
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    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    Have you ever seen this thread? Here
     
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    counter Godly Member Platinum VIP

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    I've seen it.

    All I need is to confirm those 2 STEAMID's status if they contributed to the community. I believe one did.
     
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    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    Thats not the point, both of them were breaking rules. Why would I only ban one of them if they were BOTH breaking the rules?
     
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  10. Lucas Hood

    Lucas Hood former Sylar

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    You still haven't taken into account that you have NO evidence and their is NO reason why Rogers should be banned. You should be following the rules when it comes to these things. You clearly have no idea how to handle this sort of situation and if your having issues with the situation ask an admin. So im going to ask again, do you have any sort of evidence to back up the claims of others.
     
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    Both? It is the player who purposely abused the material tool should get punished instead of the whole team.
    EDIT: I'm not talking about the prop pushing ban but both of the material abuse.
    Those might have been a misconception as said way back before. I maybe do need more counseling from time to time but thanks for the tip.
     
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    Console doesn't show EVERYTHING (I've gotten in trouble cause of this many times), you have to gather evidence and listen to both peoples stories, not just go off of what one or two people said on one side, he could of possibly been doing it over mic or using props to minge (I do know that it shows what props are spawned, but it does not show someone flinging it with a phys gun).
    Also, if you think it is a mistake of banning Rogers, shouldn't you go to a higher staff about it for confirmation?
     
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  13. Roflcopter Rogers

    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    The whole team was breaking the rules, after several warnings (and kicks from a silver rank VIP the smarter member of the team left his teamates, the others refused to leave) and both of them said "If the material is there we are going to use it".
     
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    Thanks for shedding some light on the topic.
    Steam ID STEAM_0:1:64809879 is not VIP, and STEAM_0:1:42639178 is a Gold member.
     
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  15. Lucas Hood

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    You haven't got a valid reason to ban Rogers. You have taken peoples perspectives of the matter and used them instead of evidence. You have banned a player for banning rulebreakers. I really don't understand your reason for the ban in the first place.
     
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    Thanks for the tip. I haven't gotten to talk to any player that has been banned without any reasoning like as I did to @Immy.

    Seems reasonable enough. I didn't understand the view until you mentioned it. What material they were using? It may have been invisible to your view but not to others.

    Overall, I may have misinterpret on what Rogers was trying to mention. I should shed some more light, basically going with others first than just immediately banning them on the spot.
     
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  17. Roflcopter Rogers

    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    Counter, they were using tank glass, and everyone on the server was whining about it.

    Edit: So this isn't the first time you've wrongfully banned players either?
     
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  18. Lucas Hood

    Lucas Hood former Sylar

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    Go back and answer my questions before you start saying "thanks for the tip"
     
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    Ah.

    I know situations that come like this, I should go for assistance first rather than doing it by myself. Once again, I apologize for this misconception on banning you as I should have.
     
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    I thought I did answer them. You do notice that I do not have any sort of evidence other than the unjust ban for the player that didn't contribute which I know was a mistake.
     
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