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Discussion in 'Feedback & Support' started by Mapplesauce, Feb 9, 2016.

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  1. Mapplesauce

    Mapplesauce twentyseven character title

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    You bet your ass I would make a thread.

    It probably wouldn't esculate to this level if people didn't prune shoutboxes.

    First off, pruning shoutboxes should be used for crap like porn or gore image spam or something. Not for fucking cleaning up "drama". You don't have a right to get rid of posts just because they have "drama in them", that's not even a god damn rule and many times it wasn't intentional. Drama isn't even inherently a bad thing; solving issues is what a group of people do, not swipe stuff under the rug. Of course, most of the higher ups in Devinity think ANY drama is the spawn of the devil. I thought I would never reference this but a huge example of this was my god damn ban from a while back, where I was wrongly banned for literally mentioning "hey guys, dont you think we're a bit too lenient with staff apps?" Then I was banned for inciting "DRAMA" I didn't even post as much as the other guys arguing. And don't use your "ughh ur exaggerating" It's fucking OBJECTIVE. I have the shoutbox saved in a textfile of that time and I still other proof. Then it was said I spammed the shoutbox which NEVER HAPPENED. No proof was provided and everyone just agreed because "oh well hes staff he cant lie xD better just get on his good side xD". You think that me bringing up blatant issues is "spam"? What a joke.

    I've been told many times Devinity is not supposed to be so serious and that we all know its not perfect but we're working on it. Where the fuck is anyone working on it? Obviously there is no such thing as a perfect community with no flaws but I at least expect some people working on it. We discussed this shoutbox garbage on a past meeting, I thought we were past this. Obviously we're not, because the shoutbox was just pruned for "drama" and the staff didn't answer when pressured for an answer.

    If you are a moderator and you don't like a post, don't delete it, what the fuck. It's literally limiting freedom of speech which is inherently deplorable.. We have issues, just god damn admit that. Deleting posts just makes people more furious. I would be lying if I wasn't mad at the moment.

    Maybe it's because the staff takes things too personally. Let me tell you, letting us argue in devinity wont make us hate each other severely, don't act like we're children. It'll only do the opposite. Hell, I don't even dislike anyone in the higher ups, even Decap and Dawson, although it may seem like it. Maybe you get offended when someone critizes the all so perfect devinity, I don't know. Frankly, I dont give a shit, just get the fuck off your ego and follow the own god damn rules that you put in place. If you can't, then ADD RULES AT LEAST. Don't make up garbage.

    If you read this all the way through, thanks, I appreciate it. Don't wipe this issue under the rug.
     
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  2. Ethan

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    *deletes thread*
     
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  4. Rick

    Rick female nipple Gold VIP

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    I really don't get why anybody thinks deleting people discussing/arguing will do anything other than annoy people
     
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    You're getting very drama constructing in your old age Mappl
     
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  6. Decap

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    The real question is, what happens to all of the shoutbox posts when I prune them? I think I have an answer:

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  7. Ethan

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    How is Mapple who is speaking the truth about the issue causing drama?
     
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    You should honestly leave
     
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  9. Rick

    Rick female nipple Gold VIP

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    So should you with this fucking toxic attitude, you try to derail every single fucking thread into an argument
     
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    All players are welcome here until banned.

    What's the point of pruning the shoutbox of drama? It's stupid to use a tool meant for spam for pruning something that will breeze over within an hour of being on the dead ass shoutbox.
     
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  11. Ethan

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    I'll leave when you change your snobby attitude, but that's never gonna happen.
     
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    Mature, as always.

    How fucking smug can you be? Instead of addressing my concerns you literally make a fucking pun.

    This shit isn't a fucking offtopic thread. You -1ed me for posting shit that didnt have to do with the thread when it wasn't an offtopic, yet you do the same in an ACTUAL SERIOUSLY IMPORTANT META THREAD.

    JUST IN CASE YOU FORGOT, you are a fucking super admin. Screw this, don't even bother, you're too stubborn to address any actual concerns or possible wrong things you might have done. Nice.


    How about you fuck off and add something constructive instead of trying to start a war, you smug prick? You realize you're a senior mod and jr mods should look up to you, right?

    @Donkie @Bayrock pls address 2 concern
     
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    Just follow the shoutbox rules or take it into the conversation. Its quite entertaining when you guys argue in the shoutbox but some people doesn't want that.
     
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    Mapplesauce twentyseven character title

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    so if you dont like something its ok to remove it from the public eye? just ignore it
     
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    It's irrelevant and it breaks the shoutbox rules. So I think it would be a good idea to remove it.
     
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    WHERE in the rules is drama not allowed?
     
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    Its based on common sense. At least 90% of the community (active members) doesn't want that bullshit.
     
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    Nobody wants arguing, but people will just argue even more if you start removing their arguments. There's never even a resolution, you guys just fucking delete it and post some unfunny joke or something semi-related without addressing what people were talking about.

    Are you starting the dumb as fuck "Keep it relevant in the shoutbox" shit again, the entire point of the shoutbox is that it can be used to discuss anything, you're doing nobody any favours by coming up with "relevancy" for a shoutbox.

    Also this whole thing about being volatile and constantly changing the rules and shit about devinity based purely on the opinion of the majority brings it down, either stick to the rules that have been written or add some accordingly and by talking to the other staff, if people are just talking about some "controversial" shit in the shoutbox talk to the staff team and be like "oh yeah bros we got an issue" but don't start making up shit on the spot because your own judgment tells you that some made up statistic means it's okay to censor arguments and not address them.

    I don't know what's going on in your head but I don't see the "common sense" you're talking about in:
    "hmm these people have an issue and they are talking about it publicly"
    "i could try and help them resolve this issue"
    "na fuck it ill just delete their entire conversation and tell them to stop"
     
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  19. Mapplesauce

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    So you're saying it's inherently wrong, according to common sense, to not argue about anything ever even if a huge issue happening? So you're saying the people who run politics in America don't have common sense for not limiting freedom of speech?

    You realize politics are filled with arguments, right? If we were to disallow arguing nothing would be done. Fuck, do you even understand the point of arguing? Regardless of what people like, arguing needs to take place or else nothing would be done. There is absolutely nothing wrong with drama and it is impossible to prevent it. Attempting to only increases the amount of drama.

    If it is common sense that drama is not allowed then put it in the fucking rules. It obviously isn't common sense considering arguing is absolutely essential and limiting drama would limit arguing. It also is obvious considering so many people support me and the idea of freedom of speech.

    It absolutely amazes me, the fact that some people are literally against freedom of speech in this community.

    @Decap You think I don't have balls? Address my concerns or in 24 hours I will post a ban report against you for abusing powers by pruning the shoutbox even though no shoutbox rules were broken and for posing a joke/something clearly irrelavent in a thread that's not offtopic, which you literally enforced to me a while ago. I don't want to, but you're not addressing anything.
     
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  20. Decap

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    Ew no one said anything about your balls Mapple. I don't think you understand the difference between an argument and drama. While they are fairly similar, one can be conducted in an appropriate manner, while the other tends to involve a lot of shouting and stomping bc one party doesn't get it their way. You aren't helping your "argument" by typing in caps lock and calling people names (which btw is against the rules).

    So since you wanna know so bad, I pruned the shoutbox bc of David, not Rick or you. David started going off on Rick for spamming when he wasn't. So instead of deleting posts one by one to get him to shut up, I pruned, told everyone to stop, then sent David a message telling him not to do that. Apparently that wasn't enough and everyone started getting their panties in a twist again so I had to prune once more to get my point across. It's not "suppression of freedom of speech" or whatever else you come up with that makes you feel like you're so oppressed. You really think after all that happened that Bayrock or Donkie wouldn't handle it any differently? I've seen them both prune the shoutbox for less drama than that.
     
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