Staff ranks shouldn't be carried over

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Viral, Apr 23, 2018.

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Should this be implemented?

  1. Yuh

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  2. Noh

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    55.6%
  1. Viral

    Viral Devinity's Finest Forger Bronze VIP

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    I’d like to kick off this thread with the statement that I am in no way suggesting those that have received their rank this way be demoted at this time. I don’t think that’s a good way to install a new rule, and those who received their rank by applying for the opposite server would be grandfathered in.

    That being said, even if it is a sore subject, you could be an expert in flood moderation but that doesn’t necessarily qualify you to be staff on Battle Royale—and vice versa. However, there are qualities in our staff members that give them the right to be staff and I do believe that if you are staff on one server, you’d probably be a good fit for the other game mode; even so, the gamemodes and their rules are very different and perhaps instead of giving universal ranks, roles on other servers should just be heavily considered when the said staff applies for the other server.

    Originally I was under the impression that this wouldn’t be possible due to the database having to carry over ranks, but then I was informed that this wasn’t the case in the past when Devinity had multiple servers (TTT, Jailbreak, etc.) and members were asked to apply individually for each one. This begs the question, why did we change? I think the old system held more water due to the fact that it actually tested the qualifications of the member through the scenarios.

    Moving forward I believe the only universal rank should be admin, mainly because that rank comes with an extreme amount of trust but if people feel mod should be universal too, I’d be open to that. Let me know how you feel in the poll above.
     
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  2. Donkie

    Donkie Founder & Senior Developer Staff Member Founder

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    The old servers we had used to have split ranks because everything wasn't integrated into the same system back then. Nowadays, forum ranks and whatnot all read from this one lil' database rank value.

    I somewhat agree to that ranks should be split up, but this has yet to be any problem and I'm not going to spend hours on solving something that isn't an issue to begin with.
     
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  3. Viral

    Viral Devinity's Finest Forger Bronze VIP

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    Yeah, I understand that I do however still think it should be something to talk about as just because it hasn't been abused yet, doesn't mean at some point it won't.

    I know it'll be a lot of work for you to do which is why I'm not going to try to push super hard for it, I just think it'd be something good to put in place at some point to actually determine which staff are which instead of having them all jumbled up and able to moderate on the other servers if they aren't fully aware of how things are run.
     
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  4. Melon

    Melon Poorest Melionaire

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    It is rather annoying when battle royale staff try to moderate flood, vice versa.

    Sometimes people get away with breaking rules
     
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  5. Sgt. Orange

    Sgt. Orange Weaponsmith

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    Neither against this or for it, seems like a very minor issue, I think telling the staff "not to participate in moderating servers they are unfamiliar with" is enough.
     
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    counter Godly Member Platinum VIP

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    Ranks should be separate but as Donkie said, it's not currently an issue. I believe ranks should still be universal for the time being since moderators will be able to cross moderate our servers in case someone isn't available to join whenever a player is in distress.

    If flood moderators aren't comfortable with battle royale moderation then they don't have to do it. If they aren't knowledgeable, then we advise that they get familiar with the rules beforehand.
     
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