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Denied Unmute request and also demote staff request

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  1. Vinyx

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    Name: Vinyx

    Name of staff member: Applcore5

    First of all to make it more solid i got Image proof.

    And do not think im biased to myself. Im going out as neutral and will explain everything that happened.

    Also i did not find where to get unmuted and demote requests so this is the closest i can get. I am sorry if there is a place for that and i posted this wrong.

    So what happened was that i was on the flood server as usual. Playing some rounds. Then i had my own team with another member, then when our ship went down we jumped on another ship, a boat prop with 2 snowmen on the side to make it float. So we both got stuck on it, so when it dissapeared we were stuck in the air. I had my sight on our raft in the back which had many layers door and had extremely much hp. and i had 25% so i just kept my eyes on it. Then he said he must slay one of us. And he slayed me and my teammate died instantly. Which was a bad move. Due he had 5% hp and i had 25% hp and he slayed me and my friend died instantly when he hitted the water. so we both died at the same time. So i got mad, and started arguing with him why he did that. He responded that i was on the top of the list and he just slayed me because of that. And he was dead so he had several mintues, he could just check whos at the lowest hp and killed him instead of me to continue the game. And i do not accept lazy work from staff members as ive been put out with that on several servers and also shown by Jacob when i was on the server yesterday. Then the argument ended. Then someone said something about black people. He stated dont be racist. I said, so you indicate that black people are a race? and he responded ''it is'' i had that on image aswell but the chat dissapears if you take a image without having text bar in chat up. So i build my usual boat. Its the 2 soda machine with walls, which i flip around. So i put it in the water, its about 10 seconds left. I unfreezed it. Then when i put it in the water to later flip it around to make it good. Applcore5 slams his ship right into mine. Locking my boat under it. And said (Image) ''Do not prop push'' ''Final Warning'' (Without even giving a warning first). That just pissed me off. Due it was so desperate with time, so i said fuk off. And i pulled out my ship and i had no time to flip it so it just stayed in a vertical line like this (Image) /. And he muted me. Round started. I drowned due i couldent get up on my ship. Got proof also about the same position of the ships i the start of the round (image). So im dead spectating, cant even say anything about it because im muted. So then round goes on. Some people are mad at the admin. After seeing him kicking and muting most players they grouped up against him. so everyone shot at him. Two ships infront of him were shooting at him. And just wanted his ship to sink. He said, Ninja, you MUST shoot the guy next to you now. He said ''I will not'' And he slayed him. (Image). A guy argued afterwards with some vulgar words also seen (image). ''fucking idiot'' ''they would have shot you down then they would have killed eachother'' Instead of solving it with a mute he kicked him. Then he came back pissed off and used vulgar language and still diddnt get muted, he got banned 1h. But i see that as a Good Call, but he could have also muted him. Next round comes. Then i put down my soda machine, and then i was about to put down the other but i just got so mad at his abusive powers. due i lost 2k clean off just because he decided to place his boat direcly over mine locking it under it. and he pushed the boat fast also. It all happened in about 3 seconds after he entered my frame, which was the whole upper side. So i flinged my sodamachine in the wall and he said. ''Dont fling props'' and that was enough. i wasnt gonna stay due i would probably be banned by some strange reason, or slayed. I was still muted so i couldent say anything against him. Then after that i disconnected and registered on the forums and posted this application,

    And trust me, none of this is a lie, everything is 100% truth. I would not go through this 1 hour session of picture uploading and writing session and registration and more JUST to make my voice out for his demotion. if i did anything wrong i would get punished and felt that i deserved. but i deserved none of this. Neither did the others effected. So i do not know if im still muted but if im permanent muted i would like to get unmuted please. Glad you read through all this and i hope you understand my situation. Here is all the pictures. I cant post more then 3 so ill leave a imgur link aswell to the remaining pictures.

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  2. Donkie

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    From reading this, it feels like Applcore did some things wrong, but you have to also understand that it's not always easy making the right decision. I'll leave it to Applcore to defend himself.
     
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    I can't go just off of your word, so by looking at the screenshots to back you up, I really don't see anything that I can hold against him. Your boat in the 2nd pic looks like it's very unbalanced and would flip over easily. You responding to him in the first pic shows that you were not dealing with the situation very well. I understand people get mad, but we have to base this off of evidence and what you have isn't much. Like Donkie said we can let Applcore defend himself though.
     
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    When I joined, you and your teammates were glitched in the air with no props beneath you. After seeing complaints in the chat I slayed one of you and your friend hit the water and died. (Your friend even backed me up on my decision). After that a prop pusher that had hit me before hit my boat into yours and I told him to stop prop pushing (it was his final warning not yours). Then you cursed at me a few more times . After the round a player joined and commented in chat "Niggas r retarded", I warned him not to be racist. And you flamed me saying that African American isn't a race and that I was Hitler. I tried to explain to you that by race I meant ethnicity but you wouldn't listen. That round the same player created a team called "Negros b shit" so I kicked him. After, Ninja and his friend (who formed a team after) started trucing. I told them to stop and you attacked me in chat while I was trying to warn them, once again flaming me with vulgar language. It was then that I finally muted you. Ninja then told me that he refused to kill his friend so he was slayed. The next round, as I was building my boat I saw a prop go flying a cross the map. I simply stated, "Don't fling props" and you left before I had a chance to unmute you.
     
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  5. buffAL0

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    While reading this I do have limits when it comes to joking around. Being racist isn't funny or a joke so I'm going with vinyx. If you have any opinions on a race I would say keep it to yourself. Although the aligning and slaying is somewhat wrong but it is sometimes hard to make the right call.
     
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    Buffal0,
    I sincerely believe you have no idea what your talking about. A different player came on the server and started being racist. Since you are the heart of the community I'm sure you could understand that I had to warn this man so I commented "Don't be racist" I was then jumped on by Vinyx who claimed that African American is not an ethnicity or a race. I don't know what he thought I meant by the word racist but he seemed to think it was a diminishing word for some reason.
     
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  7. Vinyx

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    First: I explained that you did the wrong choice by taking the easy way out and killing him instead of me. I was correct?. Second: If you hit your boat against mine, and it got locked underneath it. and i said fuk off. You could have simply responded, i ment the other guy prop pushed me. Instead of just deliviring a mute for a missunderstanding. The point is you are an staff member with abusive powers. You never solve anything with time and effort, easy way out. You dont care about the players and their game experience you care about your game experience. And i never cursed at you a few more times, how can i curse at you a few more times if im muted? and i even had image proof that you muted me after ONE comment. Also, when i say nazi i indicated that the nazi ideas were based on world races, that the indication of a race is there. It is only one race, and that is human. I never said you were hitler, i even got image proof on that too. And for gods sake what is wrong with you, ''you attacked me in chat, once again flaming me with vulgar language'' HOW CAN I DO THAT WHEN I AM MUTED. i even got IMAGE PROOF that i am MUTED the whole time, even after the game. And you never deliver warnings, you always say FINAL WARNING. Never nothing before. In the case if i was staff, i saw ninja and his friend teaming up against me. I would have tried to defend them off, and after the game i would have given them a warning if they truce next game they will be slayed. Everyone happy, instead of in the middle of the fight scream out, ninja attack him. He says no, and you just slay him. Just to make the game easier for you. But i cant get why i got a mute. I responded for a missunderstanding, not even that vulgar. No warnings, no FINAL WARNING, just a mute direcly. But you dont care, due im just a normal player that joins in like everyone else, the server is populated so who cares? That is why i dont like you as a staff member. I see all other staff members like IceSeason very good and can handle situations fairly well. You as not a jr.mod but a promoted Mod to see your situations more easy do not punish people every second. Let them play, Deliver Warning,Final warning, Punishment. The final warning type just seems for a way to you to punish people more easily for fun. You as a mod shouldent make mistakes like this, jr.mod i would accept it somewhat, but not as a Mod. You are a member of the community to represent the community. By your actions you have never proven that, to me atleast.

    He should see easy situations like this and how to solve them. Im just a member and i could see how to solve all the problems. But its up to you to promote them based on their actions, i do not know if you have the time enough or if you are constantly busy. But you could go in disguise sometimes to check out the mods and their actions on the servers.

    Why would i go off registering and writing for 1 hour just to make a false claim, that is completly pointless. I got the images to show that he muted me after one comment, that our ships were in the same place. And that he executed ninja DURING a fight where he was losing and everyone was teaming up against him, even a guy on the side he diddnt notice. And im an experienced ship builder. Ive had that model tons of times, the thing is. You see the pillar on there. Its supposed to pull the boat down so it cant flip. So what i do is i flip it over. and its a blast door protection on top. Flipped concrete walls as protection 3 layers. and the pillar to pull it down so its completely stable. But if it isnt flipped the pillar will just pull to the side and just screw everything up as you can see. So the ship never works unless its flipped over. Which i did not have the time to do because he slammed his ship into mine without even apologizing. I just responded angry and he delivered a mute without warning.

    Yeah, but you see. We can never reach equality if you keep indicating racism, Racist= Discriminating to another race. That is an old claim. Today sience proves that its only apperence wise depending on what climate your ancestors lived in, and how the changes was made with generations passing dow. All other things is exacly the same as everyone else. You could have muted him or kicked him for vulgar language. Instead of racist and indicating that being black is a race. Or talking to diffrent people which you claim has divided group as persons. Instead of speaking to an american with dark skin colour you speak to an Afro-American, in your veiw. So you as a Mod could pull the straw to end that, and make the community better.
     
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    My bad man, the screen shots told a different story, I don't know vinyx jumped on you like that.
     
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    Applcore5 said, Don't be racist, i said, so you mean being black is a race, due racist = Discriminating to another race. When he said Nigga. Which i say most times as a joke. Then Applcore5 responds: It is. And i claimed that its the nazi vision that there is tons of races in the world. Also separating them in world classes like Applcore5 supports. Because its nothing vulgar in that. I know history. Ive studied the whole nazi party and their visions, so i claimed that he had the nazi vision. And just to lean it over to his side he said i called him hitler. Even when i got image proof saying i did not do that. So i do not know why an Mod is overreacting and lying about things ive done just to make himself look better. Bad Mod.
     
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    You claim that I muted you after one comment but it was after several. You only screens hotted the part where I finally muted you, what a coincidence. I've also told you multiple times that the word race does not mean what you think it means. I wasNOT implying that African Americans are a different species. I was simply implying they were part of a different ethnic group, therefore it is racist to discriminate based on that. [​IMG]
     
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    Sevral? ofcourse you overreact again as you have proven before as when you claim i called you hitler, which was false. claim i assulted you with vulgar words when ninja got slayed, which was false due i was muted. Instead of passing this on. Can you answer me, why did you claim i called you hitler. And why did you claim i assulted you with vulgar words when ninja was slayed when i was muted. Explain that to me please.
     
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    Actually you very well could have, we've certainly seen it before. Even yesterday with @Jacob , people get upset and try to get pity revenge. Or it could be the fact that you actually think you're in the right here. (Hitler thought he was in the right as well)
     
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    Pretty sure you did. Just because your meager screenshots don't include you doing it, doesn't mean you didn't dl it in the first place. Again you haven't supplied proof because then it would make you look bad as well, and because of that fact this is going nowhere as they can't just go on some stranger's word. Now please lets stop bickering, if you'd like to have civil discussion about this add me on steam and we can chat.
     
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    Also explain to me why you muted me without warning, no first warning, no second warning no final warning, and why you always say final warning instead of passing out warning then final warning.

    And explain to me why you managed to slay 8 ppl, kick 3 times, ban one hour, and mute 3 times. Within 5 minutes in a friendly 7 populated flood server which we all had fun untill you joined. And managing to make the whole server pissed off within 5 minutes aswell.

    And explain to me why you prop-pushed me (Against the rules) so my ship got stuck under yours without apologizing or ANYTHING, you just looking at me drowning and see my ship fail.

    But ofcourse i couldent say anything, because when a player does a minor mistake by using one vulgar word against the supreme mod its considired punish without warning, but when a mod can prop-push and go against the rules he goes without punishment or nothing.
     
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    If you want more proof. Fine, ill get the others online at that moment. See what they think. Because ofcourse you are always right because you are mod and always have the highest word. And just shut down all the evidence that im trying to make. Like a jew showing evidence of the holocaust after WW2 and a nazi shutting it down. You like when i put it that way?
     
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    I thought you found the imgur link and clicked it. I guess not. You said i called you Hitler.

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    You said i vulgary assulted you several times when ninja was slayed when i was muted.

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    And how if another mod joined, we would all be happy. Darkness would be muted. Ninja would gotten a warning reminding them they need to make a team to be able to truce, (They could be new players). They would create a team, and be happy. I would have gotten a reminder that it was another one that prop pushed and a warning for my vulgar language, and a sorry for messing up my ship. But how you. Managed to go against ALL of that. And get everyone mad, pissed off, Muted/Slayed/Kicked/Banned. Cause more destruction then any other mod out there.
     
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    I'm sorry I had you mistaken with Darkness too. I ended up slaying and kicking people (I kicked one person that was Darkness before he came back and said I was Autistic Jesus, then he was banned) because its my job. Im supposed to moderate and I was doing so, inappropriate language to that extent is not tolerated. I slated someone for trucing, and I slated you because I had no choice.
     
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    But when i was on the server you explained to me that you had a choice. To slay him or me. And you picked me just to make it as quick as possible because i was on the top of the scoreboard. Right?
     
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    A slay is a warning, just so you know. I also verbally warned both of them but they refused to listen. Why would I apologize if I did nothing wrong? I didn't prop push anyone, he did. He also ****ed up my boat as well so I gave him a final warning after I had given him a verbal warning already.
     
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