Rule 20

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  1. Roflcopter Rogers

    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    Some people think balloons have similar abusable powers of thrusters, but I feel that they can not be "abused" in the same way.

    • 1. Balloons can be easily popped with any gun on 1 hit
      2. They are harder to use to keep up sinking props make a bobbing up and down boat
      3. They seem to be easy targets for anybody.

      That is all I have for now I will post some screen shots of what I feel are acceptable things to do with balloons
     
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  2. Noriaki Cocaine

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    i'm not so sure, but are there no props light enough to float just from balloons?
    i don't know much about the physics of the entities
     
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    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    Only some props can bob up and down with them
     
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    Balloons seem way underused imo.
     
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  5. jeffreythe00

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    Balloons were only meant to be an aesthetic perk. So when we found that players were using them in an unintended way, we limited it. The rule was changed essentially for the same reason as the materials. While the balloons weren't as game breaking as some materials were, it still brings me back to my first point.

    Thrusters on the other hand are another story. They do give the player a slight advantage but they are rivaled by the boat motor whereas balloons have none.

    I speak only for myself when I say that I don't think the Devinity team has any intention on changing Rule 20. If we do change the rule I think it will just be removed completely. At that time we will have limited the tool to only apply "0 Force" on props. Therefore nullifying any advantage you could gain.
     
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  6. Noriaki Cocaine

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    then the only actual reason for balloons is because they look nice and maybe tend to draw fire(?)
     
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    To be fair, theres no actual reason to donate unless you really don't want to spend a day or two grinding for guns. The rest of the stuff we include are bonuses in my opinion. The only reward/s you actually get for donating are very minimal at best. Honestly, I don't think we reward people well enough when they do donate. I'll try to list as many as I can think of so you can get an idea what everything is actually intended for.

    • You save quite a few hours of grinding for cash to buy weapons.
    • You save quite a few hours grinding for cash to buy player models & hats.
    • You get a nice chat tag that shows you supported our server by donating
    • You get a couple special commands to help keep the server fun and enjoyable for everyone.
    • You get a couple tools (depending on what package you donate for) which you can use to make your boat look cool. (Balloons included)
    • Noclip for building Silver+.
    • Healing stick/Famas (Just to add a bit of useful content).
    • Thrusters Silver+ (Better mobility, cool and useful content).
    You are not required to donate. To those who don't donate or can't we really appreciate just having you playing on our servers. Every person who plays makes the server better because not only does it increase our popularity but it makes your interaction better! Ever think about how many friends you've made just by playing on our server?

    To those who donate, we greatly appreciate it as keeping the server online isn't free. Nor does the development we do as time = money. Not to say anyone actually gets paid for the time we put into the servers. Plus it allows us to further expand (Jailbreak for example). So thank you guys very much. I hope everyone who donates enjoys their stay even more with the awesome perks you get :)
     
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    While we can certainly afford to spoil our donators more and more, care must be taken to avoid casting a pay-to-win atmosphere upon ourselves, much like what has befallen SSG. A single exclusive weapon & utility is enough for us; we'd be safest with adding additional cosmetic tools (like the 3D trails emitter that I proposed a while back) and player model accessories / trinkets. An exclusive player model probably wouldn't hurt, either, but like everything else, it shouldn't be over-done.
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  9. Roflcopter Rogers

    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    Can I make a balloon boat tho
     
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    If a balloon(s) is making a boat that wouldn't float on its own float. That would be breaking the rules. Example - Metal door with balloons in the 4 corners with the maximum pull. This would cause this Metal door float with you on it. Have balloons just for "show" is completely fine.

    "If a balloon(s) is making a boat that wouldn't float on its own float." I can't find a way to word this better :\
     
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  11. Roflcopter Rogers

    Roflcopter Rogers Least From The East Platinum VIP

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    What if it is just balloons making me float?
     
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