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Resolved Stalling or Being Smart?

Discussion in 'Feedback & Support' started by David, Feb 13, 2016.

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Is it legal to not attack a larger team in order not to agro them towards your small team?

  1. Yes, its just being smart and avoiding the big guys!

  2. No, its just plain stalling. You have to fight!

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  1. David

    David Dedicated Member Platinum VIP

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    If, for example, a small ship hidden among wreckage of another ship is stuck in the middle of a fight of 2 of the largest teams, both of whom have not noticed the smaller ship, allowed not to attack the large ships due to the danger of agroing them, or is that just plain stalling? I want your opinion! If you have a diffrent answer then the one in the polls say it in the comments. Actually, do it anyways. I want to hear your full thought, completely written down in the comments.
     
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    I believe that as common sense of self-preservation you shouldn't attack them as anyone else would normally. Mostly when you get money for survival time, so you just wait the big teams kill each other and then just finish off the rest of the remaining team.
    Its the most rational option in my opinion.
     
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    The rules need to be explained a bit more properly just because of the recent Skyboat and Trucing problem. In my own eyes, if you are not attacking anyone literally for that reason, then I'd say its a no. I've heard from some opinion that it is debatable as well. Not sure overall.

    There are other players who will bitch about this idea and will blatantly post a ban request on you. I'm just saying though.
     
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  4. David

    David Dedicated Member Platinum VIP

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    If it is clarified in the rules that it is legal to do that, then whats the problem?
     
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    You have to attack something at least to get damage off of your weapon. If you are not attacking anything, I could say that it is prolonging the round. It affects:
    • 05. Do not prolong the round.
    • 07. Do not money round. (Stall the round to get extra cash and/or shoot dead players props for cash.)
    That's why I'm not so sure about it.
     
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    1. The small boat isnt shooting in order not to attract attention so rule 07. is not applied here. Aaaand, the boat is not going to stay passive for the entire round. They are just waiting for the big guys to finish fighting and then destroy the one that managed to survive, but got weaker. This however does not completely make rule 05. not apply here. The debate is about wether its legal to stay hidden or does it pass rule 05.
     
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    You are making it confusing here. Just shoot the one that is weaker instead of not shooting at all. Helps the other team out, don't you say?
     
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    David Dedicated Member Platinum VIP

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    Or, you can just stay out of the fight so you dont agro anyone, and then destroy the guy that won.
    If you attack the weaker one they might see that its a lost cause and go all out on your in "Revenge" for attacking them.

    But you might survive if you dont attack them and wait to attack the stronger one after he wins in hope to be able to win *facepalm*.
     
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    What are you even saying? Just attack them still. You get the sweet profit noneothertheless.
     
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    You might survive if you have a boat good enough unless if the 'strong' team is ganging up on you too.
     
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    Just standing there not doing anything is delaying the round and also pointless. While it's a bit of a grey area I admit, we will have players who will bitch and complain because they have nothing better today. It's pointless because the majority of your money doesn't come from winning the round but from doing the most damage. So if you stand there and don't do anything for the majority of the match, you aren't increasing your player level very much or making a lot of money. I would suggest attacking someone or a team of people who are preoccupied with attacking someone else instead to avoid any issues.
     
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    But some people dont care about their levels or money, they just want to win for the satisfaction of winning. What then?
     
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    That's their loss I guess. If they lose, they lose. But they still have to enforce server rules.
     
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    I'd say personally if there is a lot of people then its fine. if you're down to less than 10 though then it is not advised. But you have to understand that our rules are subject to administrator perspective. I may not find this gray area against the rules but another mod or admin could and they can enforce that.
     
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    Ok, lets take the following scenario: full server and 2 four players teams are left, would you attack one of them and risk having both of them start shooting your boat once they realize how weak you are or will you attempt to stay hidden in order to leave both of them make each other weak and raise your probability of winning?
     
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    Exacly what I ment. I would personally stay hidden and either try to sneakily land some shots at them while they arent looking or just wait till 1 emerges victorious but weaker and try to overwhelm them. Also choosing a side is also a possibility. Join the weaker one againts the stronger one...
     
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    Attack the boat that seems weaker while the other one helps you. This is debatable but use your logical sense without actually prolonging the round.
     
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    It isn't prolonging the round if there's still people fighting each other, the round is still progressing and they'd attack you anyways after they were done, so you attacking or not does not impact in the progress of the round.
     
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    That is stupid btw, its smarter to attack the stronger one in hopes to kill him and move on to the weaker one. You dont want to be stuck with a strong dude/team alone. Its suicide.
     
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    It does impact for only a few moments. If you attack the team that is stronger, you can eventually shoot them down without even noticing you, making the higher chance to win. Every damage counts bro.

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    Must have gotten that one mixed but you'll end up dying anyways if someone is stupid enough not to shoot them.
     
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