Personally grenades ruin flood for me, recently it has pushed people towards making smaller boats or doing things like a smaller boat and a larger one. In my eyes that isn't in the spirit of flood. It used to be okay because people didn't think about annoying (And in many cases gameruining) tactics that take into account how much money they can get, with no other parameters like other players, or just generally having fun. As of right now, there is no point in having a large boat on flood. If you make one it will only mean that you provide farm to other people, this reduces the amount of fun and effort overall on the server. Those whom spend ages building a strong boat (The entire concept of flood) will become utterly distraught when a player with Two Snomen and a crate of beers throws 4 grenades into the centre of his boat. The cunt with the tiny boat gets 4k damage, and then player that has worked long and hard gets almost nothing. @Decap, you mentioned that fact that you feel that this isn't an issue because nobody talks about it. I think you'll find we do talk about it, and it's been brought up at more than half of our meetings. I also don't like your attitude of "They're supposed to destroy big boats well", whilst that may be true, it in no way justifies having them, if that's what they're supposed to do then I see no positives that outweigh the negatives. I also think that people underestimate the ability of the grenades currently, given the fact that you are able to position your boat freely before the round, you are always able to locate yourself at the prime range for grenading a large boat. I've seen this done by many players and the use of it is increasing and increasing because it is one of the most effective ways of farming, you can make 6k easily in one round in no more than 10 seconds of playtime. Preferably I would look for a way to encourage people to build larger boats and stop them from making the smaller ones that ruin the game, although I see no way to do that without drastically changing grenades.